Comments on: Just because it’s a crowd doesn’t make it wise

By: What the Fark? « The Great Decide

What the Fark? « The Great Decide — Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:08:09 +0000

[...] result in crowds that are quite irrational. When the purpose of engaging in a discussion in a social media forum is to score points, intentionally obfuscate another’s position at any cost, be decidedly closed off to anything [...]

By: Branding in the Age of Relational Media « 4ScreensMediaCenter

Branding in the Age of Relational Media « 4ScreensMediaCenter — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:25:21 +0000

[...] of provocations, crowds turn very ugly and morph into mobs (as was recently witnessed at the Web 2.0 Expo). Similarly, when I worked for a social/relational media monitoring company, we found that there [...]

By: Laurel Papworth

Laurel Papworth — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:51:20 +0000

Interesting – engagement works in social media but not at conferences? It’s more important for a keynote presenter to “broadcast” than to “respond”?
How hard would it be to stop, read the tweets, ask for a show of hands, adapt, respond, measure? Or does that only happen online, not in real world?
Real questions, I know what I believe but we all differ no?

By: billso

billso — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:07:12 +0000

+1 Lyell. It would have been so easy to put an LCD panel in Danah’s line of sight.

By: sleeprun

sleeprun — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:47:41 +0000

….me agin, remember that this is a SYMPTOM not the problem…thet problem was that her ideas and thinking blew the brain fuses of a lot of the audience…that’s why we avoid conferences…if it’s not already accepted wisdom…ppls defense get triggered…they either zone-out or flame-out!!……who cares…the reseaqrch on group information processing has this covered pretty well……

…we save real ideas for selected groups who already “get it”…pablum for the rest….getting slapped down like this is a good quick signal for her to avoid these kind of forums…the rest of us would prob even pay to get her latest and very quickest ideas…

….taking it personally from either sender of receiver doesn’t track the data…it’s largely unconscious reflex….externalizing behavior…..pretty boring…

…in any somed you gotta expect it and slap them back down immediately….and block ‘em….sure they’ll change…they’ll get worse!!

By: sleeprun

sleeprun — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:41:06 +0000

We have found that guys, especially type-a/tech guys minds:
- Do not track what women are saying well
- Can not pay attention for very long, their brains are designed so they just run out of gas – especially when a woman is talking to them…
- On social media tend to regress quickly to: A. hostility B. inappropriate sexual comments. They are horrible on Twitter! They cannot carry-on extended polite tweeting.

In my consulting work it’s critical to be able to put firm and instant boundaries and block these pretty typical behaviors. In most social situations where a type-a guy is stressed the hostile/aggressive behaviors take over. In social media, this is just accentuated, plus there’s a guy/macho feedback loop. Too bad, but predictable.

Never take it personally. Their brains and hormones make ‘em do it.

By: Lyell E. Petersen \ @93octane

Lyell E. Petersen \ @93octane — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:24:12 +0000

My question is not why they’d allow a public view of the backchannel, but why wasn’t danah boyd given access to the same view? How would she even be able to see any negative reactions of the audience or be able to address their issues or change the course of her content or style of her delivery? At best it’s narrow-minded to not give her access to the backchannel. At worst it’s cruel and exploitative — throw her to the mob! Let’s see how she does!

I was not there, so I cannot comment on the presentation nor on danah boyd. But I speak often and always keep the backchannel right in front of me. I’d never stand up in front of a crowd with that liability behind my back.

By: Awaiting Igon Valuation « Dachis Group Collaboratory | Social Business Design

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:50:41 +0000

[...] business wants things Igon Valued. In a recent embarrassment at Web 2.0. Expo NYC, danah boyd was publicly humiliated for speaking too densely, quickly, and smartly… I used to think it was compelling stories [...]

By: Aaron Post

Aaron Post — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:04:57 +0000

So let me get this straight, you have a big screen with a live twitter feed behind the speaker and you didn’t expect it to turn into a bit of a mob scene? OH Really?

By: Tyler Hurst

Tyler Hurst — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:08:41 +0000

First, if you sent the tweets, live with it, don’t call other people out for doing it and second, WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD.

So her preso sucked. That happens. People reacted in a juvenile matter. It happens.

Perhaps it’s time our standards are raised.